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romney worked both those strategies last night and mr. romney, of course, won the debate, on style, on presentation, he won on demeanor. now day two is the attempted cleanup for things he actually said. today has been a day of mr. romney's campaign saying he did not mean what he said about people with pre-existing conditions being able to get health insurance. his campaign said today he does not have a plan for that even though he said he did. the romney campaign today said he did not mean what he said about half the energy companies supported by the obama administration going bankrupt. he didn't actually mean that. sort of rolled over from democratic and liberal bewilderment last night that mr. romney was abandoning his main economic plan that he was running on, his $5 trillion tax cut plan, his big trickle-down plan, to be rolled over from democrats being bewildered about that to the beltway press and mainstream pundits i think now having a hard time deciding whether they are supposed to call that a lie or whether they're supposed to ju
romney worked both those strategies last night and mr. romney, of course, won the debate, on style, on presentation, he won on demeanor. now day two is the attempted cleanup for things he actually said. today has been a day of mr. romney's campaign saying he did not mean what he said about people with pre-existing conditions being able to get health insurance. his campaign said today he does not have a plan for that even though he said he did. the romney campaign today said he did not mean what...
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guess who uttered 500 more words than the president last night? mitt romney. we did the check. 7,890 words. obama, 7,354. it goes to the ideas and explains he was listless and a little bit, shall we say, he pondered a long time. >> we've seen him ponder a lot in the speeches. it was business consultant versus college professor. sort of harvard versus harvard. no question harvard business school versus harvard law school. no question that president obama showed his campaign has been doing the work for him and mitt romney has been doing the work for his campaign. we'll see what happens going forward. pout a question, the obama supporters were on their heels last night. were disappointed. wondering, where was this guy who they've been seeing in the tv commercials going so hard at mitt romney? he was clearly trying to be too presidential and not going after romney. >> we can't escape the fact. four of the last five incumbent presidents had lost the first debate. it's unbelievable. you have to say there is something to this. >> they're not used to being challenged
guess who uttered 500 more words than the president last night? mitt romney. we did the check. 7,890 words. obama, 7,354. it goes to the ideas and explains he was listless and a little bit, shall we say, he pondered a long time. >> we've seen him ponder a lot in the speeches. it was business consultant versus college professor. sort of harvard versus harvard. no question harvard business school versus harvard law school. no question that president obama showed his campaign has been doing...
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what do you say to mitt romney? >> well, first of all, i do think the start of the presidential campaign in some ways start wd the debate the other night. i think only partisans watch the convention. a lot of the real undecided voters started to tune in. he had a good night, he can build on that. i think what he has to do, though, is not just become the biggest critic of the president. i think other people can do that effectively. he has to start showing his vision and how to give hope to people of why america is going to be better under mitt romney and also let them see him personally. get to know him and see that he's actually a pretty darn likeable guy once you get to know him. >> can he win from here, do you think, john? >> oh, absolutely. i mean, we have already seen some of the polls that came out today since the debates show a great tightening. we have also seen there's been a big influx of money for mitt romney which will for the first time put him on an even parity with obama on advertising, and like i said
what do you say to mitt romney? >> well, first of all, i do think the start of the presidential campaign in some ways start wd the debate the other night. i think only partisans watch the convention. a lot of the real undecided voters started to tune in. he had a good night, he can build on that. i think what he has to do, though, is not just become the biggest critic of the president. i think other people can do that effectively. he has to start showing his vision and how to give hope to...
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romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. [ horn honks ] [ male announcer ] you start your day... love you, too. ...thinking about what's important to you -- your family... ...the mortgage... the kids' college tuition. [ cellphone ringing ] but life insurance? [ horn honking ] life is unpredictable. that's why at fidelity life we want you to think about term life insurance -- taking care of your family's future expenses if something happens to you. it's easy. we get to know you and your needs, then give you our best quote and our competitors'. you choose and save up to 70%. that could mean $250,000 of coverage for just $15 a month. we offer plans with no medical exam, and we've been in business for over 100 years. call fidelity life. ♪ or visit fideli
romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. [ horn honks ] [ male announcer ] you start your day... love you, too. ...thinking about what's important to you -- your family... ...the mortgage... the...
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romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. >>> absent from last night's debate were any issues that related particularly to just over half the voting population. that's women. and mr. romney probably thought better than to mention republicans defunding planned parenthood or mandating transvageal ultrasound probes. yet, if you listened closely, women were mentioned at every turn. >> i was in dayton, ohio, and a woman grabbed my arp and she said, i have been out of work since may. can you help me? yesterday was a rally in denver, and a woman came up to her with a baby in her arms. a woman came to me and she said, look, i can't afford insurance for myself or my son. >> joining us here in new york is my colleague crist yal ball, one of the mosts of "the cycl
romney's performance last night really what women want? stay with us. >> but the right answer is not to have the federal government take over health care and start mandating to the providers across america telling a patient and a doctor what kind of treatment they can have. >> jerry, just remember, it's not a lie if you believe it. >>> absent from last night's debate were any issues that related particularly to just over half the voting population. that's women. and mr....
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>> first of all, as governor romney pointed out last night, the mayo clinic is a private institution run by people privately who do things efficiently, which is very different than the federal government, which has rampant waste. i helped co-author a book called "stop paying the crooks" a few years ago which pointed out in new york state medicaid, 10% of the money goes to pay for fraud. >> we're talking about medicaid, not medicare. >> medicare's the same problem. >> i'm jumping in. unlike jim last night, i mean it when i jump in. >> i'm very proud of you. we're proud of you. >> you will be unsurprised to hear you have been speaking more, newt. not by a lot. when we come back, jennifer will get her lion's share of the time to respond to it and we will have more red meat to toss on the barbecue, including the future life or death of big bird. [ woman ] ring. ring. progresso. in what world do potatoes, bacon and cheese add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this sou
>> first of all, as governor romney pointed out last night, the mayo clinic is a private institution run by people privately who do things efficiently, which is very different than the federal government, which has rampant waste. i helped co-author a book called "stop paying the crooks" a few years ago which pointed out in new york state medicaid, 10% of the money goes to pay for fraud. >> we're talking about medicaid, not medicare. >> medicare's the same problem....
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how would you grade mitt romney last night? >> i gave him a full a and i gave obama a c minus and it was kind of a gift. you know, i hate to admit it, but i go all the way back to the 1960 debate, steve. this was the biggest gaffe between an incumbent president's performance and a challenger's performance ever. for those who think 1980 was a bigger gaffe, i i would invite them to go back and see that debate. yes, there was a big gaffe between eggen and carter, but it wasn't this big. >> steve: you're making it sound quite historic. in fact, "wall street journal" says this is the best debate effort by a republican nominee since reagan back in 1980, which would have been 32 years from now. do you think this is going to move the polls, move the meter? >> that's the big question. if you're asking me to guess, and that's all i'm doing this morning, i would say it will move the needle. i have no idea how much. is it a point or two or is it a bunch much points? we're all going to find out in the next wave of polls. i think everybody i
how would you grade mitt romney last night? >> i gave him a full a and i gave obama a c minus and it was kind of a gift. you know, i hate to admit it, but i go all the way back to the 1960 debate, steve. this was the biggest gaffe between an incumbent president's performance and a challenger's performance ever. for those who think 1980 was a bigger gaffe, i i would invite them to go back and see that debate. yes, there was a big gaffe between eggen and carter, but it wasn't this big....
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it's because i care about education for all of our kids. >> mitt romney last night's debate talking about education as governor of massachusetts. duval patrick followed romney as governor. he's co-chairman of the obama campaign and one of the president's staunchest defenders. what did he make of president obama's debate performance? he joins me now. governor, the general consensus seems to be your man took one hell of a shellacking. >> i think the president had a good debate but i think romney had a better one, to tell you the truth, especially on style points. we know governor romney from our time here in massachusetts, his time here in massachusetts. we know him to be a very effective salesman and he was selling. the problem is what he was selling won't actually do what he says it will do. it will not grow opportunity from the middle out. >> tell me this, though. i remember when we spoke at the dnc convention, you said, you made a big speech, we talked about it afterwards, time for the party to show some backbone. by party, obviously including the president. last night he didn't seem to
it's because i care about education for all of our kids. >> mitt romney last night's debate talking about education as governor of massachusetts. duval patrick followed romney as governor. he's co-chairman of the obama campaign and one of the president's staunchest defenders. what did he make of president obama's debate performance? he joins me now. governor, the general consensus seems to be your man took one hell of a shellacking. >> i think the president had a good debate but i...
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first of all, let me say that governor romney was pumped the other night, we understand that. he buried himself in facts. he wanted to overcome some very dark days that he had. i remember words always will are ring clear that you are not entitled to food, healthcare or education or going over to one of our greatest allies and. >> judge jeanine: you do not believe that you are not entitled to healthcare. the guy did massachusetts healthcare, what are you talking about? >> judge, judge, when you are in the dark of night and there are to cameras and you say what you believe people in america do not deserve healthcare, food or education so as it relates to the president as it relates to the president, judge. >> judge jeanine: this is a man who said that with 87% of the opposing party in the state of massachusetts he got healthcare has passed, how can you sit here and tell me -- >> but the democrats in the state of massachusetts were prepared to compromise and work together. that is not the case in the united states congress but the president shows how he can govern by the successe
first of all, let me say that governor romney was pumped the other night, we understand that. he buried himself in facts. he wanted to overcome some very dark days that he had. i remember words always will are ring clear that you are not entitled to food, healthcare or education or going over to one of our greatest allies and. >> judge jeanine: you do not believe that you are not entitled to healthcare. the guy did massachusetts healthcare, what are you talking about? >> judge,...
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the mitt romney wasn display last night is the one that his friends and family and a few journalists who have had access to him over the years have seen before. that guy can win this race. the question is, can jesus stain it beyond one night. >> in any number of areas what governor romney has done as he said laid, said last night he laid out the broad principles but now you have gotten specific about the good parts, the carrot if you will and very vague about the stick. >> obama is brilliant in a speech, a peach is different than when you are in an argument and when you are in an argument if you don't bring passion to your argument the other side is generally going to win and what you say almost matters as much as how you say it, and the scary thing about politics is, substance aside, you know, a lot of the journalist whose know the substance on these issues are debating with themselves who was more accurate and who was not. when you listen to the person in the street, the voter, the juror who i speak to, they say i understood romney, i didn't understand obama. i liked romney's style
the mitt romney wasn display last night is the one that his friends and family and a few journalists who have had access to him over the years have seen before. that guy can win this race. the question is, can jesus stain it beyond one night. >> in any number of areas what governor romney has done as he said laid, said last night he laid out the broad principles but now you have gotten specific about the good parts, the carrot if you will and very vague about the stick. >> obama is...
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chris: was that the wednesday night massacre or what? did mitt romney catch up and pass obama in one 90-minute performance? will the strong new jobs report help the president to take command? leading from behind? was there some hidden unknown logic to the president's decision to let his challenger wing his way from one position to another? why didn't barack obama force romney to own his record against the auto rescue and against the 47% and against showing his personal taxes. was there a reason obama didn't want 70 million people to know his best case? finally, rematch. will the town hall format of the next debate give barack obama a chance to show greater empathy. and will mitt romney be just as good when people ask the questions? hi, i'm chris matthews. welcome to the show. with us today, abc's sam donaldson, nbc's andrea mitchell, msnbc s.e. cupp and joe klein. the new jobs report gives the obama campaign a much-needed assist after the debacle wednesday night in denver. the debate's closing statements told the tale. the president was
chris: was that the wednesday night massacre or what? did mitt romney catch up and pass obama in one 90-minute performance? will the strong new jobs report help the president to take command? leading from behind? was there some hidden unknown logic to the president's decision to let his challenger wing his way from one position to another? why didn't barack obama force romney to own his record against the auto rescue and against the 47% and against showing his personal taxes. was there a reason...
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romney, governor romney, is able to say something like, well, all pre-existing conditions will be covered and then have his guy go out later that night and tell a few people who read the newspapers, oh, it doesn't really cover you unless you're already covered which doesn't mean anything. your thoughts, ron. will television deceive? >> yes, television does deceive. candidates deceive. it's one of the most disturbing aspects of this campaign, particularly if romney were to win. it would set a standard of dishonesty for all campaigns going forward that would be really hard to meet. going into the next debate, i have been listening to your discussions thus far today, and i agree with you, you don't want obama to relitigate the last debate and i agree he has to attack romney the man. it's not about rearguing the medicare issue as such. it's about revealing the fact that romney has been all over the map on various issues, will say anything on a given day to get through the day, and he has to be unmasked that way. >> well, that's what i would do, michelle. the facts are that romney believes bas
romney, governor romney, is able to say something like, well, all pre-existing conditions will be covered and then have his guy go out later that night and tell a few people who read the newspapers, oh, it doesn't really cover you unless you're already covered which doesn't mean anything. your thoughts, ron. will television deceive? >> yes, television does deceive. candidates deceive. it's one of the most disturbing aspects of this campaign, particularly if romney were to win. it would...
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mitt romney countered barack obama last night. came back at the president in a respectful way and the president didn't have answers. it was a win on substance last night. martha: you are obviously a unique political player and observer of this process. you are the co-chair of president obama's campaign back in 2008. what brought you to the place you are now as a supporter and surrogate for mitt romney just four years later? >> i'm like about 7 million americans who voted for the president who don't plan to do so again. i'm like many americans who were democrat at one point who moved away from the democratic party. the democratic party ideas. part of it is policy. part of it is ideology and part of it is results. last night was a debate about result. what was telling to me. at no point did president obama lay out a case for what a second term is going to look like. i heard president obama say he was going to do one thing in his second term. he's going to raise some taxes in the second term that he didn't get around to raising in th
mitt romney countered barack obama last night. came back at the president in a respectful way and the president didn't have answers. it was a win on substance last night. martha: you are obviously a unique political player and observer of this process. you are the co-chair of president obama's campaign back in 2008. what brought you to the place you are now as a supporter and surrogate for mitt romney just four years later? >> i'm like about 7 million americans who voted for the president...
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you heard the president last night with mr. romney. mr. romney being a different mr. romney than we've seen him for the last 18 months or the last section years. do you think even with the new hit romney that showed up last night when he starts talking about states' rights, when he starts talking about regulation or deregulation, when he starts saying he doesn't advocate $5 trillion tax cut when in fact the numbers prove that he does and has been advocating that, will that resonate with independent voters and/or undecided voters in your state of ohio? >> i don't think so. i think people realize that governor romney is still wrong on medicare and still wrong on trade and still wrong on jobs and still wrong on the middle class. i think that's increasingly clear. again it goes back to which path do you go. do you want to go back to the trickle down economics you give tax cuts to the rich and hope it helps the middle class or do you focus on the middle class and that's trait enforcement, it's i don't think training at community colleges like columbus state and sinclair. i
you heard the president last night with mr. romney. mr. romney being a different mr. romney than we've seen him for the last 18 months or the last section years. do you think even with the new hit romney that showed up last night when he starts talking about states' rights, when he starts talking about regulation or deregulation, when he starts saying he doesn't advocate $5 trillion tax cut when in fact the numbers prove that he does and has been advocating that, will that resonate with...
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what mitt romney did not win last night is next in the rewrite. add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> at this very minute. the news minute on tv and online the news media were flooding you with information about who won the debate. i used to be one of those guys. i knew for sure that john kerry won all three of his debates against george bush. but of course he didn't. this is a good time to think about what it means to win a debate. in high school and college debates there are judges to decide which debaters who actually won. those debates have real winners. winners who get real trophies. no one got a trophy but plenty of people guessed at who would have gotten a trophy. the question is they were debating for votes and those votes wouldn't be counted until next month. so all of the winner talk you have withbeen hearing is just guessing and all of the guessers have been wrong before. my guess is about who won debates have been wrong man
what mitt romney did not win last night is next in the rewrite. add up to 100 calories? your world. ♪ [ whispers ] real bacon... creamy cheese... 100 calories... [ chef ] ma'am [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. >>> at this very minute. the news minute on tv and online the news media were flooding you with information about who won the debate. i used to be one of those guys. i knew for sure that john kerry won all three of his debates against george bush. but of...
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it seemed like all the liberal media, last night was mitt romney's night. one of the governor's biggest supporters predicted this. a performance even the mainstream media cannot tonight. now they are picking it apart. i was watching a couple of your appearances. i am a huge fan. and now they are saying, it was jim lehrer who did such horrible job. he let the governor run away with it. on and on and on. >> the tyndale is back in the leg. that is the most sickening expression. >> this morning and this afternoon, there are packing it with people who are trying to explain that this was just a one bad night and the president is still cecilia's he was before. neil: the thin air in denver, a mile high. >> blaming it on altitude. the president revealed last night why the country has over 8 percent unemployment. 23 million people unemployed and underemployed. it is because he is incompetent and incoherent and has not functioned in the white house. it was, i think, pretty clear that he has been propped up for four years by a mainstream media that has tried to make hi
it seemed like all the liberal media, last night was mitt romney's night. one of the governor's biggest supporters predicted this. a performance even the mainstream media cannot tonight. now they are picking it apart. i was watching a couple of your appearances. i am a huge fan. and now they are saying, it was jim lehrer who did such horrible job. he let the governor run away with it. on and on and on. >> the tyndale is back in the leg. that is the most sickening expression. >> this...
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romney has a good night, but no evidence of changing the game. i agree with them completely on the first that romney had a good night. i think we will have to see a minute whether it changed the game. walmart sponsored their walmart focus groups with momentum analysis, a democratic polling firm, one of glen's partners together. they suggested a monster lot of walmart moms, it was a win for romney. the people in the groups were divided between a win for romney or a tie. on the other hand, it said they were disappointed with the president's performance. they do not think he made the case for how another four years would be better. they made the point that neither one of these guys really connected with voters on a personal level, but i think romney did a superior job of debating it. we will be seeing a lot of reviews over the next few days. i think the key thing for us to watch, no question mitt romney won the debate. how much does this change things? in national polls he will get a few points out of this. the more relevant. is that, number one, do
romney has a good night, but no evidence of changing the game. i agree with them completely on the first that romney had a good night. i think we will have to see a minute whether it changed the game. walmart sponsored their walmart focus groups with momentum analysis, a democratic polling firm, one of glen's partners together. they suggested a monster lot of walmart moms, it was a win for romney. the people in the groups were divided between a win for romney or a tie. on the other hand, it...
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that's why we saw that new slick version of the romney bot on wednesday night. this romney bot, they worked on him for hours in the factory making sure he had the right smile, making sure he seemed warm and sincere. well, who was that guy, michael? this is not a guy we had seen on the campaign trail for the last -- >> i can't even take any of this seriously. >> -- several months. >> i think, first off, the whole idea this guy is an empty suit, it's laughable to say that. he was the governor of a state, and he was very successful as a governor of a state. he was able to cobble together the coalition, something this president hasn't been able to do, quite frankly, to get his agenda done. >> why does he keep saying his -- excuse me. this one gets to me, and i don't like the word lie, but i think he's dealing in an untruth here. he did it the other night after being corrected by his staff when he did it on one of the sunday shows. he said his health care plan, such as it's going to be, will cover people who don't have coverage for a pre-existing condition and they t
that's why we saw that new slick version of the romney bot on wednesday night. this romney bot, they worked on him for hours in the factory making sure he had the right smile, making sure he seemed warm and sincere. well, who was that guy, michael? this is not a guy we had seen on the campaign trail for the last -- >> i can't even take any of this seriously. >> -- several months. >> i think, first off, the whole idea this guy is an empty suit, it's laughable to say that. he...